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Spelling
[edit]Which is correct, Frederic or Frederick? Flapdragon 00:54, 16 August 2005 (UTC) It's spelt without the 'k'.
Mother
[edit]An anon added, a few edits ago, the following about Benson's mother: "who was discribed by Gladstone as the 'cleverest woman in Europe' and later left her family to settle in Lesbos in the company of Lucy Tait, daughter of the previous Archbishop of Canterbury." I can find no documentation of any of these statements; does anyone know whether they were true? If we can't document them I suggest that they should be dropped until verified. seglea 18:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
- OK, partial evidence from the net suggests that this is probably reliable. See, for example, reviews of Graham Robb's Strangers: Homosexual Love in the Nineteenth Century - which also might contain information about E. F. Benson's own sexuality (he is referred to in various places as homosexual). If anyone has access to this book or other reliable sources it might be useful to add something on this theme. seglea 18:23, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Although it's certainly true that Benson's mother did set up house with Lucy Tait, I'm afraid there is no conclusive evidence to prove that their relationship was a lesbien one - the above quote is one of hearsay; it might be true, but there is no proof. This is a topic that has been discussed greatly amongst Benson scholars, including the various books about the family (most notably biographies about AC and EF), and the overwhelming view is that it's just as likely that the relationship was completely platonic. The most accurate statement would be that Tait and Benson lived together, but the exact nature of this relationship is unknown.
Similarly, the sexuality of the Benson children has been widely debated with no definite conculsion. I do have several biographies about the Benson family, so I may add to this article, but to be honest it's a bit of a mess e.g. it's hardly surprising that his brother Robert married as he was a monsignor in the Catholic Church! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.174.15 (talk) 20:29, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
RADIO ADAPTIONS
hasn't there been a further short series on Radio 4, possibly as part of Woman'sHour, post Ned Sherrin (and not as good) ? Daiyounger (talk) 22:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Name
[edit]Just wondering why this article was moved from E. F. Benson to its current title? WP:COMMONNAME would suggest it should have remained where it was - he is and always was "E. F." in his public works, as far as I'm aware, and I can't find any discussion or consensus for the move. I'll look into it further before I do anything, but I'm inclined to request a move back again. Karenjc 11:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 07:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]What happened to the short story collecions?
While I applaud the conflation of the Mapp & Lucia into this article, I do wonder why all references to the two important Benson short story collections by Jack Adrian have vanished?
~ ~~ Bantaar (talk) Bantaar (talk) 04:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC) 04:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC) 04:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)~ 04:07, 22 January 2013 (UTC)Bantaar (talk)
Now, was that enough tildes to make me escape Wikipedia's pillory of having my IP address published for all and sundry? (crossing fingers)
Edward Benson (writer) → E. F. Benson — See WP:COMMONNAME. He always published professionally as E. F. Benson and is always referred to thus in literary histories, scholarly discussions etc. Same rationale as our articles on J. K. Rowling, W. G. Grace, and indeed the subject's own brother A. C. Benson. Karenjc 17:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Bearing in mind the intro note that he was privately known as Fred, my move to Edward Benson makes much less sense. I support a move to his professional name DBD 18:34, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support move to E. F. Benson for reason given, i.e. that he is best known by his intials.HeartofaDog (talk) 02:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support move to E. F. Benson for reason given.RivGuySC (talk) 03:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support. Deor (talk) 16:51, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Tables moved to the talk page
[edit]Short stories (supernatural)
[edit]E.F. Benson's supernatural works were taken from the following locations, subsequently collected into the following volumes:
Title | Earliest known date of appearance | Earliest known location of appearance | Earliest known date of collection | Earliest known collection |
---|---|---|---|---|
At Abdul Ali's Grave
[first published as A Curious Coincidence] |
24 June 1899 | The Graphic | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Clandon Crystal | 23 November 1901 | The Onlooker | 2005 | Sea Mist |
The Man Who Went Too Far | 00/06/1904 | Pall Mall Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Cat | 27 November 1905 | The Illustrated London News | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
Gavon's Eve | 13 January 1906 | The Illustrated London News | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Dust-Cloud | 00/01/1906 | Pall Mall Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Shootings at Achnaleish
[aka: The Shootings of Achnaleish] |
27 October 1906 & 3 November 1906 | The Illustrated London News | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Bus-Conductor | 00/12/1906 | Pall Mall Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Other Bed | 00/04/1908 | The Popular Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The House with the Brick-Kiln | 00/12/1908 | London Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
Outside the Door | 00/01/1910 | London Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
How Fear Departed from the Long Gallery | 00/12/1911 | Windsor Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Confession of Charles Linkworth | 13 January 1912 | The Cavalier & Scrap Book (U.S.) | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Room in the Tower | 00/01/1912 | Pall Mall Magazine | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories |
The Friend in the Garden | 00/08/1912 | The Storyteller | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
Caterpillars | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories | ||
Between the Lights | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories | ||
The Terror by Night | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories | ||
The Thing in the Hall | 1912 | The Room in the Tower and Other Stories | ||
Dummy on a Dahabeah | 00/06/1913 | The Storyteller | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Red House | 00/12/1914 | Pearson's Magazine | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Chippendale Mirror | 00/05/1915 | Pearson's Magazine | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Return of Frank Hampden
[aka: The Case of Frank Hampden] |
00/12/1915 | Pearson's Magazine | 1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square and Other Stories |
The China Bowl | 00/12/1916 | Pearson's Magazine | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Passenger | 00/03/1917 | Pearson's Magazine | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Ape | 00/05/1917 | The Storyteller | 1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square and Other Stories |
Through | 00/07/1917 | The Storyteller | 1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square and Other Stories |
Thursday Evenings | 23 November 1920 | Pears's Annual 1920 | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
The Light in the Garden | 23 November 1921 | Eve | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Psychical Mallards | 26 November 1921 | Pears's Annual 1921 | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
The Outcast | 00/04/1922 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
Number 12 | 10 May 1922 | Eve | 1991 | Desirable Residences and Other Stories |
The Top Landing | 7 June 1922 | Eve | 1991 | Desirable Residences and Other Stories |
Mrs Amworth | 00/06/1922 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
The Gardener | 00/08/1922 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
The Horror-Horn | 00/09/1922 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
"And the Dead Spake…" | 00/10/1922 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
Negotium Perambulans... | 00/11/1922 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
In the Tube | 00/12/1922 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
Machaon | 00/01/1923 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
Mr Tilly's Seance | 00/12/1922 | Munsey's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
At the Farmhouse | 00/03/1923 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
Inscrutable Decrees | 00/04/1923 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
Roderick's Story | 00/05/1923 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1923 | Visible and Invisible |
Expiation | 00/11/1923 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
The Corner House | 00/05/1926 | Woman | 1928 | Spook Stories |
Boxing Night | 30 November 1923 | The Tatler | 1993 | The Technique of the Ghost Story |
The Dance | 1934 | More Spook Stories | ||
The Bath-Chair | 1934 | More Spook Stories | ||
Naboth's Vineyard | 00/12/1923 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
The Face | 00/02/1924 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
Spinach | 00/05/1924 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
Reconciliation | 00/07/1924 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
Corstophine | 00/09/1924 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
The Temple | 00/11/1924 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
A Tale of an Empty House
[aka: The Tale of an Empty House] |
00/06/1925 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
Bagnell Terrace | 00/07/1925 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1928 | Spook Stories |
The Call | 17 December 1926 | The Radio Times | 2003 | The Face |
"And No Bird Sings" | 00/12/1926 | Woman | 1928 | Spook Stories |
By the Sluice | 25 March 1927 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers and Other Stories |
Home Sweet Home | 00/06/1927 | Woman | 1928 | Spook Stories |
Sir Roger de Coverley | 00/12/1927 | Woman | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Box at the Bank | 00/03/1928 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
Pirates | 00/10/1928 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
The Hanging of Alfred Wadham | 21 December 1928 | Britannia | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
Atmospherics | 28 December 1928 | The Radio Times | 1994 | Fine Feathers and Other Stories |
The Witch-Ball | 00/12/1928 | Woman's Journal | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Wishing-Well | 00/02/1929 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
Christopher Comes Back | 00/05/1929 | Hutchinson's Magazine | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
The Bed by the Window | 00/07/1929 | Hutchinson's Story Magazine | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
The Shuttered Room | 00/08/1929 | Hutchinson's Story Magazine | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
The Flint Knife | 00/12/1929 | Hutchinson's Story Magazine | 1988 | The Flint Knife: Further Spook Stories |
James Lamp | 00/06/1930 | Weird Tales (US) | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
The Step | 00/12/1926 | The Windsor Magazine | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
Monkeys | 00/12/1933 | Weird Tales (U.S.) | 1934 | More Spook Stories |
Sea Mist | 20 November 1935 | The Illustrated London News | 1991 | Desirable Residences and Other Stories |
Dives and Lazarus | 12 August 1939 | The New Statesman and Nation | 2005 | Sea Mist |
The Everlasting Silence | 00/00/1898 | Lady's Realm | 2005 | Sea Mist |
Short stories (other)
[edit]As well as 'spook' stories, E. F. Benson wrote short stories on other subjects:
Title | Earliest known
date of appearance |
Earliest known location of appearance | Earliest known
date of collection |
Earliest known collection |
---|---|---|---|---|
George's Secret | 21 November 1894 | The Sketch | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
A Creed of Manners | Winter 1894 | Phil May's Annual | ||
Mrs Naseby's Denial | xx/xx/1894 | |||
The Renewal | xx/11/1894 | The Cosmopolitan | ||
My Friend the Murderer | xx/10/1895 | Chapman's Magazine | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Return of Dodo | xx/12/1896 | Lady's Realm | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Dodo's Progress
[originally published as The Progress of Princess Waldeneck] |
xx/05/1897 | Lady's Realm | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Miss Maria's Romance | 25 November 1899 | The Queen | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
A Woman's Ambition | xx/12/1900 | Windsor Magazine | ||
A Mother of Men | xx/xx/1900 | |||
The Crotalus | 19 October 1901 | The Onlooker | ||
Mrs Lauderdale's Office | 26 October 1901 | The Onlooker | ||
The Peacock Enamels | 2 November 1901 | The Onlooker | ||
The Countess Hatso | 9 November 1901 | The Onlooker | ||
The Bridgwater Club | 16 November 1901 | The Onlooker | ||
The Adventure of Hegel Junior | 21 December 1901 | Illustrated London News | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
A Double Misfit | xx/08/1902? | |||
James Sutherland, Ltd. | xx/12/1902 | The Monthly Review | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
By the Waters of Sparta | xx/08/1903 | Temple Bar | ||
The Bread of Deceit | xx/10/1903? | |||
The Bridge Fiend | xx/11/1903 | Lady's Realm | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
A Card of Casuistry | xx/xx/1903 | |||
An Entire Mistake | 16 January 1904 | The Onlooker | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Bootles | 26 March 1904 | Black and White | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Defeat of Lady Hartridge | 23 April 1904 | Black and White | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
For His Friends | xx/09/1904 | Pearson's Magazine | ||
The Snow-stone | xx/05/1905 | The London Magazine | ||
The Simple Life | xx/07/1905 | The World and His Wife | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Superannuation Department, AD 1945 | xx/01/1906 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Gare du Nord | xx/09/1906 | The Smart Set | ||
The Puce Silk | xx/11/1907 | Lady's Realm | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Arturo's Boat | xx/xx/1907 | |||
The Autumn & the Spring | xx/xx/1908 | |||
The Old Bligh | xx/02/1909? | Ainslee's Magazine [USA] | ||
Guy's Candidate | xx/xx/1909 | |||
The Limoges Manuscript | xx/xx/1909 | |||
The Countess of Lowndes Square | xx/10/1910? | |||
The Case of Bertram Porter | xx/03/1911 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
The Harmonious Blacksmith | xx/12/1912 | Windsor Magazine | ||
A Little Headache | xx/xx/1912 | |||
A Comedy of Styles | xx/02/1914 | Windsor Magazine | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Fine Feathers | xx/03/1914 | Woman at Home | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Smorfia | xx/xx/1914 | |||
Mrs Andrews' Control | xx/09/1915 | Windsor Magazine | 1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square |
The Drawing-room Bureau | xx/12/1915 | Woman at Home | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
M. O. M. | xx/12/1915 | Windsor Magazine | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Teresa | xx/xx/1915 | |||
Jill's Cat | xx/xx/1916 | The Queen's Gift Book | ||
Noblesse Oblige | xx/12/1917 | Windsor Magazine | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Philip's Safety Razor | xx/03/1919 | Pearson's Magazine | 1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square |
The Godmother | 6 December 1919 | Nash's Illustrated Weekly | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
The Satyr's Sandals | 20 March 1920 | Pan | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
The Blackmailer of Park Lane | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
The Dance on the Beefsteak | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
The False Step | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
In the Dark | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
The Oriolists | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
'Puss-cat' | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
There Arose a King | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
The Tragedy of Oliver Bowman | xx/xx/1920 | The Countess of Lowndes Square | ||
The Hapless Bachelors | xx/03/1921 | Pearson's Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
The Fall of Augusta | 24 May 1922 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Lovers | 15 November 1922 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Jamboree | 1 December 1922 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Christmas with the Old Masters | xx/12/1922? | |||
'Complete Rest' | 10 January 1923 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Dodo and the Brick [original title: The Brick] | xx/03/1923 | Home Magazine | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Adjustments | xx/04/1923? | Munsey's Magazine? [USA] | ||
Mr Carew's Game of Croquet | 5 March 1924 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Eavesdropper | 19 March 1924 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Exposure of Pamela | xx/08/1924 | The Storyteller | 1992 | The Exposure of Pamela |
Music | xx/12/1924 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Thompson | xx/xx/1924 | |||
The Five Foolish Virgins | 25 March 1925 | The Tatler | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
To Account Rendered | xx/06/1925 | The Storyteller | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Entomology | xx/08/1925 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Complementary Souls | xx/09/1925 | Cassell's Magazine of Fiction | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Buntingford Jugs | xx/12/1925 | Windsor Magazine | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
Professor Burnaby's Discovery | xx/06/1926 | The Storyteller | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
The Peerage Cure | xx/07/1926 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Aunts and Pianos | xx/08/1926 | Windsor Magazine | 1928 | Funny Bone [ed. Cynthia Asquith] |
The Queen of the Spa | xx/09/1926 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
When Greek Meets Greek | xx/12/1926 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Dicky's Pain | xx/04/1927 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
The Disappearance of Jacob Conifer | xx/10/1927 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Doggies | xx/01/1928 | Windsor Magazine | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
The Guardian Angel | xx/04/1928 | Woman | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Desirable Residences | xx/02/1929 | Good Housekeeping | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
Dark and Nameless | xx/xx/1929 | |||
The Male Impersonator | xx/xx/1929 | The Male Impersonator | 1970 | Miss Mapp |
Julian's Cottage | xx/08/1931 | The Storyteller | 1994 | Fine Feathers |
A Breath of Scandal | xx/07/1932 | The Storyteller | 1991 | Desirable Residences |
The Sanctuary | xx/xx/1934 |
Is there any particular reason these tables have been moved here? EwanHP (talk) 16:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC)EwanHP
Archaeologist
[edit]The opening sentence describes him as an archaeologist, but there is nothing in the rest of the article to back this up. In general there seems to be nothing about any occupation he may have had other than writing. --rossb (talk) 08:06, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
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